Comments on: Don’t Ask the Sheriff How to Tell if Someone is Lying—Quick Lesson from a Homemade Flying Saucer… http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/2009/10/25/dont-ask-the-sheriff-how-to-tell-if-someone-is-lying%e2%80%94quick-lesson-from-a-homemade-flying-saucer/ Been lied to lately? Or could you tell--how to master deception, lying, and conversation... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Veronica http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/2009/10/25/dont-ask-the-sheriff-how-to-tell-if-someone-is-lying%e2%80%94quick-lesson-from-a-homemade-flying-saucer/comment-page-1/#comment-228 Veronica Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:32:03 +0000 http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/?p=1657#comment-228 There are a lot of instances in the media now days that put local officials in the national focus instantly, and I'm sure it catches a lot of them unprepared. A CNN or FOX camera is a lot different than lunch with the Rotary Club. Thanks for the "stuff" Jef. V There are a lot of instances in the media now days that put local officials in the national focus instantly, and I’m sure it catches a lot of them unprepared. A CNN or FOX camera is a lot different than lunch with the Rotary Club.

Thanks for the “stuff” Jef.

V

]]> By: Jef http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/2009/10/25/dont-ask-the-sheriff-how-to-tell-if-someone-is-lying%e2%80%94quick-lesson-from-a-homemade-flying-saucer/comment-page-1/#comment-227 Jef Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:25:50 +0000 http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/?p=1657#comment-227 Politics and PR are very different. Politics win elections, but PR wins people. Whatever his real "scheme" was, all he needed to say was "It's our job to always keep an open mind and lend every benefit of the doubt--we did that in this case until Ms H confessed that it was all a setup." Thanks V. Politics and PR are very different. Politics win elections, but PR wins people. Whatever his real “scheme” was, all he needed to say was “It’s our job to always keep an open mind and lend every benefit of the doubt–we did that in this case until Ms H confessed that it was all a setup.”

Thanks V.

]]> By: Veronica http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/2009/10/25/dont-ask-the-sheriff-how-to-tell-if-someone-is-lying%e2%80%94quick-lesson-from-a-homemade-flying-saucer/comment-page-1/#comment-226 Veronica Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:21:08 +0000 http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/?p=1657#comment-226 I'm with Rob, I think the sheriff is in a bad spot not of his own doin. But he made a bad move with the "lie" bit, whichever version one believes. My question to you, what else would you have had him say? What was a better PR move for him? V I’m with Rob, I think the sheriff is in a bad spot not of his own doin. But he made a bad move with the “lie” bit, whichever version one believes.

My question to you, what else would you have had him say? What was a better PR move for him?

V

]]> By: Jef http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/2009/10/25/dont-ask-the-sheriff-how-to-tell-if-someone-is-lying%e2%80%94quick-lesson-from-a-homemade-flying-saucer/comment-page-1/#comment-221 Jef Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:11:29 +0000 http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/?p=1657#comment-221 Hey, Rob, you've put this very well, and oddly enough... I'm right with you. Nowadays, a public official in any remote place can suddenly find himself giving a press conference on CCN--tough situations, no doubt. My real aim wasn't to jump on the sheriff (though it looks like it), but to peek into the less obvioius aspects of this whole thing. It's a case study in how people act/react, and it's an unusual one. My interest is only in the actions, not the person... but it's hard to critique words and actions without stepping a bit on the person they came from. What I don't care for--and won't do--is the critiquing of what a street cop does, on the street, in a confrontation. We've seen enough of that from media and others who've never been in those situations. But this guy's an elected official, he had time--albeit brief--to calculate the best course: he blew it... and I don't get any kick out of saying that. I wish the sheriff all the best. Great stuff, Rob, thanks much! -jef Hey, Rob, you’ve put this very well, and oddly enough… I’m right with you.

Nowadays, a public official in any remote place can suddenly find himself giving a press conference on CCN–tough situations, no doubt.

My real aim wasn’t to jump on the sheriff (though it looks like it), but to peek into the less obvioius aspects of this whole thing. It’s a case study in how people act/react, and it’s an unusual one. My interest is only in the actions, not the person… but it’s hard to critique words and actions without stepping a bit on the person they came from.

What I don’t care for–and won’t do–is the critiquing of what a street cop does, on the street, in a confrontation. We’ve seen enough of that from media and others who’ve never been in those situations. But this guy’s an elected official, he had time–albeit brief–to calculate the best course: he blew it… and I don’t get any kick out of saying that. I wish the sheriff all the best.

Great stuff, Rob, thanks much!

-jef

]]> By: Rob http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/2009/10/25/dont-ask-the-sheriff-how-to-tell-if-someone-is-lying%e2%80%94quick-lesson-from-a-homemade-flying-saucer/comment-page-1/#comment-216 Rob Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:53:47 +0000 http://www.deceptionsecrets.com/?p=1657#comment-216 Interesting exploration of the subject -- although I feel a bit uncomfortable taking this officer to task for this situation. I think most of us would prefer not to have been exposed to it in the first place -- especially him! He is unfortunately on the spot, in the national spotlight, because these people chose to deceive him and basically the world with their kooky idea. He's had this thrust upon him to deal with, and I'd say -- just let him try to deal with it. The eve of that day, I'm sure public sentiment was geared toward feeling great relief on behalf of this family who seemed to have been through something terrifying. He reflected that. Later, as things became clearer, he had to shift, however gracefully or gracelessly. We were all "fooled" too, so maybe we all feel foolish to some degree as well -- let's save our scorn for these nincompoops rather than the officials who have had to receive probably unwanted attention because of them! I understand your point about the "lying" and again, it's an interesting study -- but I just hate to see these pundits trying to call this guy out. He's just trying to do his job under very difficult circumstances. Interesting exploration of the subject — although I feel a bit uncomfortable taking this officer to task for this situation. I think most of us would prefer not to have been exposed to it in the first place — especially him! He is unfortunately on the spot, in the national spotlight, because these people chose to deceive him and basically the world with their kooky idea. He’s had this thrust upon him to deal with, and I’d say — just let him try to deal with it. The eve of that day, I’m sure public sentiment was geared toward feeling great relief on behalf of this family who seemed to have been through something terrifying. He reflected that. Later, as things became clearer, he had to shift, however gracefully or gracelessly. We were all “fooled” too, so maybe we all feel foolish to some degree as well — let’s save our scorn for these nincompoops rather than the officials who have had to receive probably unwanted attention because of them!

I understand your point about the “lying” and again, it’s an interesting study — but I just hate to see these pundits trying to call this guy out. He’s just trying to do his job under very difficult circumstances.

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